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Packers must dust themselves off quickly

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Joshua from Appleton, WI

There really are no easy games in the NFL?

You're learning.

Vic from Livingston, TX

So, I watched the game, as did most. First thing I noticed was poor execution. Unfortunately, the Packers were not able to get back on track later in the game. The Giants didn't play all that well, either, and left opportunities on the table. I'd rather have this type of game happen now vs. the last two or three games. This team is on a winning curve for this season.

As Matt LaFleur said last week – this league humbles teams quickly. Monday night was a reminder of how any of these 32 teams can beat the others under the right circumstances on the right day. The Packers must dust themselves off quickly while remembering how the dirt got there in the first place.

Cody from Round Lake Beach, IL

Progress isn't linear. We are trending upwards. We will clean up the mistakes. With that said I believe Christian Watson plays a larger part in this offense than many believe. Big-time red-zone threat and really spreads out the defense. Do we know how long he'll be out for?

Rough game. Disappointing outcome, but honestly what I'm concerned with most is the health at the skill positions. Already without Watson, Aaron Jones and Luke Musgrave, the Packers finished without Dontayvion Wicks (ankle) and Jayden Reed (evaluation for a concussion). LaFleur did not have an update on either player on Tuesday, so that's something to monitor this week.

Dale from Kansas City, MO

What a difference a week makes. One week it's creative, next week it never should be called. As bad as it was, I think what is very overlooked is that given the chance, after a bad game, Jordan Love took this team down the field and scored when needed. That's awesome in my book.

I'd expect nothing less from Love. Mentally, he's tough enough to not let negative outcomes tilt him off his axis. The two second-quarter turnovers weren't good, but Love kept chopping and the offense fed off that energy in the fourth quarter. Green Bay believed it could win that game until the final Randy Bullock kick went through the uprights. Love's steadiness had a lot to do with that.

Mark from Deerfield, IL

Clearly, if the Packers played "clean ball" without the stupid mistakes they could have won the game. I know injuries are not an excuse. But, at some point not having your No. 1 back, No. 1 receiver, No. 1 linebacker and No. 1 cornerback has to affect the ability of the team to win, right?

Of course. I'd be lying if I said those injuries don't make things more difficult. But in the NFL, you gotta make do with what ya got because nobody is feeling sorry for you. There are hungry wolves surrounding the campsite at all times. What are you gonna do about it? Fight or fade?

Tyler from Albuquerque, NM

In your opinion, which Packer inactive would have made the biggest difference in the Giants game and why?

Getting Aaron Jones back would be huge, but the motion offense didn't look the same without the threat of Christian Watson on the field. When healthy, Watson is a field-tilter and seemed to be finding his groove prior to the injury.

Dwight from Brooklyn, NY

After all that went on in Monday night's game, it all came down to the final play in the final seconds. If that ball had gone just a handful of inches the other way, all those II comments would have been written, but with the "dodged a bullet" addition. Reminded me how much football is a game of inches.

That's football. Media and fans perseverate on the final score, but players and coaches must look at the wins and losses with the same critical eye. In the end, the Giants' follies were lesser than the Packers' and they were rewarded with the victory.

Brian from Alta Vista, IA

The last two games Patrick Taylor has looked impressive running the ball. I know he hasn't really proven himself yet, but you would think you would roll with that hot hand. Especially once the sweeps with Jayden Reed stopped working and AJ wasn't terrible running the ball but only averaged 3.5 yards a carry.

Taylor ran the ball well on his four chances. There was one moment I'm sure he'd like to have back when he didn't go out of bounds, but otherwise the third-year veteran did everything asked of him. As far as how snaps were divided, the Packers' gameplan was tailored to Dillon and rightfully so after how he performed last week against Kansas City.

Joe from Hampshire, IL

Wes, how late/early did your plane touch down in Green Bay? Silver linings were Tucker Kraft arrow up and Malik Heath's two chances for a TD, and heads-up, electric fumble return by Carrington Valentine. Your positives?

We touched down in Green Bay just before 3 a.m. local. The performance of Kraft was my biggest positive from the game. As tough as it was to lose Musgrave, Kraft used this opportunity to show his potential as a featured tight end. That combination will be fun to watch for years to come.

Rudy from Rhinelander, WI

If KC was a "team win," NYG was a "team loss." Move on, look forward and play with passion. The future is ahead, not back! Everyone deserves blame, especially LaFleur. The team was not ready to compete. Can LaFleur rally the troops and use this as a learning experience? Can the sting of the loss inspire? I guess we will see.

This is where teams show their mettle. The season is no longer young. There's less than a month remaining in the regular season. The Packers need to decide what team they're going to be. Are you going to be the well-oiled machine that beat Detroit and Kansas City? Or the rollercoaster that led to one-score losses against Atlanta, Las Vegas, Denver, Pittsburgh and now the Giants.

John from Fox River Grove, IL

Bad play calls, penalties, bad coverage, and tackles make you want to pull your hair out. I can't afford to lose any more! When is Jones coming back? We miss the ground and pound, then the play-action!

The first injury report comes out this afternoon, but Jones seemed to be getting close last week. Again, he's no longer listed with the hamstring – only the knee.

Mike from Grovetown, GA

Would we feel better if we would have lost to Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff, and Justin Herbert and won against Desmond Ridder, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Tommy DeVito?

Perhaps. Losing to established names makes the medicine taste better, but I give DeVito a lot of credit. He's a QB who thrives in chaos. I'm not sure what that means for the future, but those backups help teams win in the present.

Check out photos from the Week 14 matchup between the Green Bay Packers and New York Giants at MetLife Stadium on Monday, Dec. 11, 2023.

John from Portland, OR

Hi, thanks for all of your great coverage. While our defense kept us in the game on Monday, I am baffled by the strategy on the last Giants drive. With an undrafted, third-string rookie QB, I believe almost every other DC in the league would have blitzed and played man coverage, forcing the QB to make a play. We played so soft that they gained 60 yards without doing anything hard. You can blame poor execution, but I feel like there was no situational awareness. Thanks again.

According to LaFleur, the Packers were in man coverage, adding, "That is something that we're going to have to get corrected. If we're calling man, we've got to be tighter."

Tim from Greensboro, NC

Morning Wes. Most disappointing aspect of Monday night was the pass rush. Pass rush 101 is never go beyond the QB. It was as if we completely forgot rules and lanes. Bad enough it happens in the 13th game of the season, but to have no adjustment over a full 60 minutes was disheartening. However, I am still very happy to have playoff aspirations this late in the year. Did not expect that after seven weeks.

Win or lose, I don't think there was any scenario in which I thought the Packers would finish with just two Rashan Gary hits on DeVito. I expected Green Bay would get home more often than it did. Even if you don't get to DeVito, you can't let him gash you the way he did on the ground. There was a point in the third quarter when the rookie had more yards with his feet than his arm.

Mike from Novato, CA

A lot of times, when things don't go well, fans will wring their hands calling for the coaches to "make adjustments," in order to suddenly turn poor showings into good ones. Most times, I roll my eyes at this, but I admit that Monday night I think we saw a difference in adjusting and not. The Giants figured out the jet sweeps and rendered them pretty much a liability. We never figured out how to keep DeVito in the pocket and sack him, and he kept picking us apart.

I've long been a big proponent of Bill Belichick's idiom that football is finding what the opposition does well and taking that away. The Packers didn't hit that mark against the Giants. They largely contained Barkley but were unable to get red-zone stops when needed. The unsung hero for New York was Wan'Dale Robinson, whose 115 total yards are really what catapulted them to the win.

Jerome from Omaha, NE

Was any explanation given by anyone on the Packers' staff as to why the Packer rushers could not corral and sack DeVito? On numerous occasions, they seemed to quickly get into the Giant backfield. However, he kept finding lanes to escape and turn what appeared sure sacks into backbreaking runs for first downs.

The front lost containment on DeVito, and he found exit angles from the pocket. It's really as simple as that. For one reason or another, DeVito seemed to have a lot of grass in front of him when he ventured into the second level of the defense. The rookie came into the game with 83 rushing yards total in his first four games. He nearly matched that on his 10 scrambles Monday.

Jordan from Virginia Beach, VA

Looking at the standings, we still control our own destiny in the wild-card picture. There is even a chance of getting the No. 3 if we can find our groove for good and get a little help from Detroit. I am obviously staying optimistic, but if we are to make it to the playoffs, is our playoff kicker currently on our roster? I know he is a rookie, and he has a leg, but I don't think it can be ignored anymore. Missed FGs, XPs and kickoffs going OB are not helping us any. And that is all mental.

The muddy playoff picture is why you can't throw out Baby Spoff with the Platteville water. You have to learn lessons from defeat in this league, and this one had a full course load. Sure, the Packers didn't gain any ground but still ended Week 14 no worse for wear with the field. To your question, Anders Carlson is the Packers' kicker. Green Bay obviously needed that 45-yarder, but Carlson battled back to make the 48-yarder to give his team a shot at the win.

Mike from Ames, IA

0-5 on the road outside the division, 2-0 on the road in the division. (Coincidentally, 0-2 at home against the division and 4-0 against everyone else). Is there any significance to the woes on longer road trips or am I reaching to try and make the weirdness of the season make sense?

It all matters. You're not helping your cause when you come up empty on the road like the Packers have this season. But whether there's more to that, that's a better question for the offseason review process.

Chas from Modena, WI

The Packers have a short week coming into the game on Sunday against the Buccaneers. How does the practice week differ from a full week between games?

LaFleur said it'll be an "above the neck" week, meaning preparation will be geared more towards walkthroughs and meetings than practice.

Gary from Cross Plains, WI

I was hopeful that Eric Stokes might have been activated and able to help on Monday after practicing all last week. Is there anything new on his status and what are deadlines for him to be brought up to the 53?

The Packers opened Stokes' 21-day practice window to return from injured reserve on Nov. 27, meaning the team has until Dec. 18 to add him to the 53-man roster. There is an open spot on the 53 after Kyu Blu Kelly was released Tuesday. Stokes also was a full participant in practice all last week, so…we'll see.

H.R. from Henderson, NV

Besides being in the AFC, what do Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrow, and Justin Herbert all have in common? All of them are on season-ending injured reserve. Rodgers with the Achilles, Burrow with the wrist, and now Herbert with the finger. Now throw in Cousins, Watson, Richardson, and Jones, and that's seven of the league's starting QBs on IR. Nearly one-quarter. And that doesn't count guys like Pickett (out for a few games) and Murray (started on IR). Ouch.

Injuries have collected so many of the NFL's stars this season. Whichever team wins Super Bowl LVIII will have survived the league's war of attrition.

Mike from McFarland, WI

The TV broadcast production became unwatchable at points. They kept playing the Miami game in a picture-in-picture at the same time and it was frustrating. I wanted to watch the Packer game full screen. If I wanted to watch a different football game, I'd change the channel. I wish the league wouldn't let their product get degraded by these production choices.

Yeah, I think the mouse tried to have its cheese and eat it too with the double window. To me, it's putting a hat on a hat. Just leave Monday Night Football alone. If you feel the need to simulcast two games, then have one on ABC and one on ESPN.

Erik from Sisters, OR

Even though it wasn't a pretty game, it was still more entertaining than a 3-0 game. Life is about perspective.

Erik, your submission is maddening and reassuring all at the same time. It's like a hot pocket stuffed with cheese and disappointment.

Brock from West Lafayette, IN

Well, I guess you can share Derek's poems now, Wes.

That's what I get for saying something about it.

Bill from Brooklyn Park, MN

Pat from Kennesaw said this game was "the worst game of the year by all three phases." Honestly, Pat didn't go far enough: This was the worst game of the year by all FOUR phases – offense, defense, special teams, and COACHING. Let's not let that last group off the hook by only concentrating on the guys wearing uniforms.

Five phases, actually. You forgot Spoff's live blog.

Jeffrey from Eveleth, MN

Moving on. I, for one, am excited for a Sunday noon kickoff game. You too?

It can't come soon enough. Have a good Wednesday.

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