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It’s impossible to achieve greatness if you’re paralyzed by the fear of failure

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Barbara from Duluth, MN

Longtime reader, first time writing in. Just want to tell you guys how much I look forward to the II win or lose, but especially when we lose. Helps me process the loss and look forward to the next game. Go Pack!

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Kurtis from De Pere, WI

Thanks to Andy from Austin, TX, for vocalizing that players are human and deserve respect. I do very little social media so I didn't see the terrible things said about Marquez Valdes-Scantling after the OT fumble. But based on where we are as a society, I can imagine it. I was pleased to read the headline Monday morning on packers.com "LaFleur, Rodgers proud of MVS’s effort." People who think otherwise have never dropped anything...and thankfully too, because I believe floors in glass houses are also made from glass.

The human element is what makes this game so great, but it unfortunately brings out the worst in people, as well. However, what people must realize is winning football requires all 11 players, in all three phases, all doing their job. MVS fumbled but he didn't lose the Packers the game. Unfortunately, there's only one ball. When it gets turned over, everyone's attention is on that player. Yet, you cannot be afraid of those moments because it's impossible to achieve greatness if you're paralyzed by the fear of failure. So you press on in the dark moments and trust the promise of light on the morrow.

Chet from Sioux Falls, SD

It takes a special type of person to choose to talk to the media after what MVS went through on Sunday. Acknowledging that if he accepts the praise when he has a career day, he should also face the music after a tough day at the office. That level of accountability is rare, and it says a lot more about the person than the player. I hope people who think death threats are the answer to a Week 11 loss think about the person next time before they press "Send" from behind a screen.

It goes back to that old adage – tough times don't last. Tough people do. Valdes-Scantling handled his 13-minute media session Monday with grace, class and held no ill will towards the media. MVS didn't blame anyone. He accepted responsibility for what happened and will be a better player because of it.

Robert from Verona, WI

There is often a lot of talk about players' floors and ceilings. On numerous occasions, MVS has shown just how high his ceiling is and I hope through continued work and the natural maturation process he can raise his floor, because he is a key component in the success of this offense. I don't feel like fans really know MVS's personality very well, so how do you think he'll handle this adversity as the team heads down the stretch?

He'll be fine. He's a strong-minded dude. He also shares a position room with Davante Adams, a disciple of Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb and James Jones.

Evan from Fox Point, WI

This isn't a question. I don't do social media but hope Marquez Valdes-Scantling knows it's not just his team that has his back, the vast, vast majority of Packers fans do also. We realize there were many mistakes made in that game and his is much easier to correct than some of them. He's a talented and dedicated player and we're excited about the contributions he's made and those yet to come. The negative folks he's heard from are outliers and the tough times don't excuse their acts.

I commend you for staying off social media. I wish I could. You win as a team, you lose as a team. And the Packers did a few too many little things wrong Sunday to earn that victory. The silver lining is they were still in it until the very end.

Jan from Hannover, Germany

Just want to say that as a Packers fan I love MVS. This kid is there in special moments. Without him there wouldn't be an overtime in the first place. I believe in him; I believe in this team. I hope that people understand that a WR room is just not filled with Davante Adams-type of players all the way. They are all different and unique and when healthy I believe this offense can compete with everybody. Period.

Human game, played by humans. Adams knows that better than anyone in the Packers' locker room. OK, moving on.

Chuck from Madison, WI

Why does it seem when the Packers' defense gets a really third-and-long, sometimes over 20 yards, they play with such a large cushion and give up huge yardage? Seems like they get a very short fourth down and just go for it and convert.

LaFleur was asked about this Monday and said it's something that was discussed after reviewing the film. The problem is players getting too much depth, depending on the coverage. It's one thing to keep the ball carrier in front of you, but you can't allow him to turn upfield and gain momentum. That's what was left to be desired Sunday.

Jacob from Superior, WI

I was disappointed MVS coughed that up too, but how do people forget he's the one that got them up to that FG in the first place, with three defenders around him? There were players I was disappointed with but he's not one of them. Also, does Indy always kick it so that they have to return, or did they realize it's a weakness of ours and just exploited it all game?

It wasn't game specific. That seems to be part of the Colts' strategy this season. Rigoberto Sanchez has kicked off for the past four seasons for Indianapolis, but he's had only 29 touchbacks on 61 attempts (47.5%). That's almost 30 points lower than last season.

Wes from Lubbock, TX

So all of those holding calls while the Colts were trying to run the clock out had me wondering if perhaps they were holding on purpose in an effort to drain the clock. Intentionally holding allows for repeated downs, but the time doesn't go back on the clock. Did I just find a loophole to kill clock that would make Bill Belichick proud?

I don't think so. If that was the plan, it nearly cost them the game. Plus, it was a holding call that took away Jonathan Taylor's touchdown.

Shilo from Murrieta, CA

Were Mason Crosby's recent injuries a factor in the Pack going for it on fourth-and-1 from the Colts' 34? A 51-yarder indoors to tie the game with Mason sure seemed like the best choice, and if everything else had happened the same (of course, a big "if"), we would've won by three in regulation.

No, Crosby's leg was fine. He was good from 53 two weeks ago in San Francisco when Crosby was still on the injury report. It was more a product of the aggressive approach LaFleur has taken in opponent territory. You can't say the Packers win by three if he makes it, though. The Colts would've played very differently had it been a tied ballgame.

Ryan from Sheboygan Falls, WI

Will the Packers pick up the pace at the beginning of the game next week instead of at the last minute?

A lot of things went wrong Sunday. "The beginning of the game" was not one of them.

Scott from Las Vegas, NV

Maybe I missed something, but I was trying to understand what happened just prior to Mason Crosby's FG with 7 seconds left in the fourth quarter. Packers were on the 8-yard line on second down and 26-ish seconds on the clock and they literally stood around like they had nothing better to do and let the clock run down to 7 seconds. They could have easily run one or two more plays, correct?

The Packers clocked the ball with 43 seconds left before Aaron Rodgers hit Robert Tonyan underneath. The Packers didn't have any timeouts, so that third-and-3 incompletion to Adams in the back of the end zone was their last chance.

Chun from El Monte, CA

Consistency has always been our issue. We showed our offense has been consistently good this season. This year our defense has been inconsistent; we had some good and some bad. Our special teams have been consistently bad for a very long time. Outside of Mason Crosby playing well, JK Scott has struggled most of this year and we have zero impactful returners outside of them coughing up the ball. Let's clean up the turnovers and focus on the fundamentals and win some games!

A loss is a loss, no different than a win is a win, but the Packers pushed the pace on a very good Indianapolis Colts team in the first half – and nearly held them off for the road win. Matt LaFleur was even-keeled as always in his postgame news conference. He offered neither excuses nor placed blame on any one specific person or area. That might not seem like much to an impassioned fan but that temperament is how teams avoid losing back-to-back games.

Ryan from Noblesville, IN

What is it going to take for the Packers' defense to protect against those dink-and-dunk passes that Brady and Rivers constantly use? It seems like the Packers have been getting burned by those for several years. Also, the ref saying "the arm was moving forward with control" was a bunch of bull honky. Did you agree with the ref? To me, there was no control when the arm was moving forward and already coming loose by then.

Inside pressure and takeaways. Not playing too far off and allowing the shallow crossers. Also, this must be said, they're both Hall of Famers. It's not Bob from the local car dealership throwing the ball out there. I agreed with the incomplete call, as well. I'd be more confused if that was a fumble and not an incompletion.

Lloyd from Rancho Cordova, CA

About the second-half offense against the Colts: Did the loss of our center to injury and the line changes cause our running game to decline, leading to the Packers becoming one-dimensional? How is Corey Linsley?

The line changes didn't help matters, but I also don't feel like they caused the stumble. The Packers had six plays on two three-and-outs in the third quarter and then were playing catchup through most of the fourth. As far as Linsley, the reports trickling out on Monday sounded promising.

Adam from Midlothian, VA

Did anyone ask Coach about the penalty for 12 men on the field with a little more than two minutes left in the game? I thought it may have been on purpose. The way the Colts were running it left little doubt they'd be able to pick up the first down on first-and-5 vs. first-and-10. Give up a free five yards for first-and-10, and still have two-minute warning stoppage to help save time. Thoughts?

LaFleur confirmed it was on purpose.

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Mark from Butler, WI

Why isn't Aaron Jones on every critical play? Don't respond we are saving him. If you are not going to play him, then trade him.

Can't. It's past the trade deadline.

Lance from Grafton, WI

Good morning Wes/Mike, I just saw a headline that stated "the Colts look ready for the playoffs." From what I saw, it was a sloppy game with many mistakes from both sides. Why do the media make these statements this early in the season?

Because that will get more clicks than "Colts play good."

Joel from Sand Springs, OK

Insiders, not really a question, but I notice every interview there's one person who starts with "thanks for doing this" and I found myself very appreciative of that consistent statement last week. As someone who has to do a lot of public speaking as part of the job it was very encouraging to hear someone offer thanks for the work being done, even if it's a mandatory part of the job. So if you can, pass my thanks on to him, and thank you for all the work y'all put in!

That's Steve from the AP. He's a very polite man.

Bubba from Kenosha, WI

Have you ever opened the Insider Inbox expecting questions on a certain topic and was surprised to find no one asked?


Dave from Bentonville, AR

Be honest. The two of you flipped a coin and the loser had to answer the Monday Inbox.

Spofford takes postgame Inboxes. Thankfully.

Nathan from Lino Lakes, MN

Living in Minnesota and listening to the local news talk about the Vikings' loss keeps things in perspective. Positive spin is Rodgers traveling to a warm-weather, empty stadium in the playoffs...There are worse things.

And there's still plenty to be sorted out with six regular-season games remaining.