Presented by

Inbox: There have been so many iconic moments

Readers came up with some great responses in this year’s Outsider Inbox

220711-insider-inbox-2560
Former Packers TE Richard Rodgers (82) catches a 61-yard Hail Mary throw from QB Aaron Rodgers

Dar from Mansfield, TX

This organization has thrice made me cry. As a kid after a crushing loss to da Bears; in 2011, jubilantly sitting at Super Bowl XLV, and Saturday, when you all blessed and humbled me. Thanks to Vic, Mike, and Wes for building this glee; giants such as Lori, Margeaux, Dean, and Derek, who set a high bar; and all you readers, who give II life. Derek, you're our LeRoy Butler. Any undue wait will only shine a brighter sun on your excellence. See y'all tomorrow. I'll again be trying to do my 1/11th.

Dar's first official comments as our Inbox MVP. Well-deserved, my friend. Now, let's get back to the questions.

Joe from Wausau, WI

Since we're still in the dead zone, can we expect you'll be taking the time to give us an in-depth analysis of Aaron Rodgers' tattoo?

On second thought…

Jackie from New Freedom, PA

To this day, which plays stand out as the most amazing ones?

There have been so many iconic moments over the past 103 years. I'm sure the answer for most Packers fans will be Bart Starr's sneak in Ice Bowl, but as far as games I've seen in-person, it's Aaron Rodgers' Hail Mary in Detroit. The game of football doesn't get any better than that.

Jeff from Eau Claire, WI

How's the special teams looking?

Real good, real clean.

Dennis from Ottawa, IL

When will Christian Watson not being signed become an issue? Aren't all rookies contracts pretty well set? What could be holding this up? I was hoping that he would be a good part of filling the gap with Davante Adams leaving. What are your thoughts?

I haven't given it much thought and I'm not really interested in taking questions until the first practice of training camp. Even if the two sides get the details ironed out, I don't expect Watson in Green Bay until the start of training camp. They'll figure it out. They always do.

Phillip from Wonder Lake, IL

Would the Packers trade Jordan Love?

Not this year.

Richard from Caledonia, WI

Good morning! Which Packers' individual team record is least likely to be surpassed in the years ahead?

Brett Favre's 253 consecutive starts or his 286 interceptions. Take your pick.

Karl from Carmichael, CA

Derek from Eau Claire mentioned "three best Packers (perhaps NFL) backup QBs of the Brett Favre era: Mark Brunell, Matt Hasselback and Aaron Rodgers." If you count the roster in camp, what happened to Kurt Warner? (One of the few that got away that won against us in the playoffs.) Truly a testament to QB development and coaching! This marked the beginning of underdeveloped talent coming to Green Bay to benefit from the opportunity to work with many of the finest QB coaches of their era.

I've never viewed Warner as the one who got away just because of how stacked the Packers quarterback depth chart was at the time. That was going to be a tough lineup to crack for a fourth-string QB. However, it's not lost on him how cool it is that a Hall of Fame quarterback like Warner did stroll briefly through Green Bay on his way to Canton. That's what makes this game so great. But he's the ultimate anomaly.

Ryan from Noblesville, IN

Now that II is back to normal, let's get started. Read an article recently that stated 14 of the last 15 (19 of 23) MVPs have been signal-callers. I know it's a QB driven league, but do you think it's time to get rid of NFL MVP and just have Offense/Defense POY awards, as well as, best of position awards? Sounds fairer, and hey, longer awards segment which means more money for the league.

I think the AP voters have it figured out. While the MVP has become a quarterback award, NFL Offensive Player of the Year has shifted to more of a "best skill-position player" award. That's a fair trade-off to me. I get what you're saying about awards for best player at a position, but we already kind of know who those players are based on how the AP votes are tallied. I guess you could fashion a trophy for whichever tight end gets the most first-team All-Pro votes, but that's not something I'm losing any sleep over.

Team photographer Evan Siegle shares his favorite photos from the 2021 Green Bay Packers season.

Craig from Bonduel, WI

Why don't you answer any of my questions regarding the players playing fantasy football, and having themselves or teammates on their teams? Too close to being against league rules?

I just couldn't care less about fantasy football, Craig. I'm sorry.

Brian from Twain Harte, CA

In response to Wayne from Lake Hallie, the Packers bar in San Jose he was referring to was called Joy's Place and it was owned and operated by my father, Jerry Moritsch. I was living in Folsom CA at that time (spare me the prison jokes) and would occasionally drive the three hours to San Jose to watch the game and help him tend bar.

I cease to be amazed by how small the world is, especially as it relates to the Packers.

Will from Rochester, MN

OI is so refreshing! I could read other people's stories about their personal Packer experiences time and time again! Maybe it's a book waiting to be published. Thanks Hod for running with this idea and sharing the fruits of your labor. It's now time to root for Sterling Sharpe, Cecil Isbell and Mike Holmgren to the HOF. We need to beat those Bears for most inductees! Thanks again, both of you for making a difference in our daily lives.

It was great to see all those Packers on the list of semifinalists for enshrinement as senior selections and contributors. We still have a long way to go, but it's a promising first step for Sharpe and Holmgren. As far as Isbell, Verne Lewellen and Lavvie Dilwig, I still think we need a do-over with the Centennial Slate. There needs to be a class of maybe 10 players who predated the establishment of the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963. There's still a backlog there that needs to be addressed. It's a shame Bobby Dillon wasn't still with us to enjoy his ceremony last year.

George from North Mankato, MN

Good morning, Wes. You get to select one of the Packers representatives for entry into the Hall of Fame this year. Whom do you choose and why?

Mike Holmgren should already be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. If there's room in Canton for a Bill Cowher bust, there should be room for Holmgren.

Gary from Elkhorn, WI

Who has a better chance of getting into the Hall of Fame sooner, Sharpe or Holmgren?

As deserving as Holmgren is, Sharpe may have the better odds with three senior nominees being eligible for enshrinement this year.

Thomas from Madison, WI

Welcome back Inbox! I've really been enjoying the "Profiling the Past" series during these lean times. Can I put a selfish request in for an Arnie Herber spotlight? He was my wife's great uncle, and I got her a customized hoodie a while back. I had the No. 38 put on the back. Did I choose the correctly?

No. 38 was among the several numbers Herber wore, so I think you're safe. "Profiling the Past" is tied in with our Packers Hall of Fame page and biographies. Over the past few years, Cliff has been writing bios for everyone who's enshrined and already has a Herber bio on our site you can find here.

Terrance from Sun Prairie, WI

How has Jerry Kramer influenced the Packers fans over the years and made such a great impact?

By being himself. He's a man of great integrity who always spoke his mind. He was 30 years ahead of his time in that regard. If there was a Mt. Rushmore of greatest Packers ambassadors, Jerry Kramer is up there. Hold up, did I just come up with the first question for the 2023 Outsider Inbox?

Bob from Grand Rapids, MI

Wow! That was the greatest Outsider Inbox ever! Wes, thanks for taking the time to read through what must have seemed an endless number of responses. My only question is, how will you be able to raise the bar next year?

It won't be easy. The readers came up with some great responses during this year's Outsider Inbox. I was blown away by the participation and turnout. It was the most fun I've had so far putting together the responses. I wish I could've included more.

James from Ottawa, Canada

Weston; thank you, sincerely, for your work on OI. It fosters and encourages our sense of community like no other. Having finished such a grueling week, sitting down for another serving of II, do you feel like shouting in exasperation, "I'm not even supposed to be here today!"?

It is what it is. Until we invest more resources into my neck of the woods, it's the only way Spoff and I can get a respite from Inbox.

Josh from Nicholasville, KY

There were so many good responses to OI. Thanks to everyone that participated. I'm curious if there was a particular answer (other than all of Tim's) that you felt really stood out?

Gretchen's story about her father and tying it back to the Packers left me cutting onions. Really, all the stories from readers recounting how they bonded over the Packers with a parent or relative were touching. The tragedy of life is there are millions of good people out there who I'll never get a chance to meet in this life. This is an extremely small corner in a large universe, but I enjoy getting to know those who are devoutly loyal to II better.

Team photographer Evan Siegle shares his favorite photos from the 2021 Green Bay Packers season.

Doug from Neenah, WI

Good morning, Wes. Last week's Inbox was outstanding in so many ways. The breadth and depth of Packer fans from around the world stood out to me. Submissions by our armed forces personnel were especially meaningful when you consider how they can't just plop down on the couch to watch a game. They enrich your Insider Inbox beyond words. Salute to service and GPG!

That is the single best thing about Outbox. I absolutely loved hearing those stories. I know I am not strong enough, physically or mentally, to make the sacrifices our servicemen and servicewomen have unselfishly made to our great country. To hear what we do at packers.com can make the day better for even a single member of military warms my heart and makes everything worth it.

Derek from Eau Claire, WI

Congrats to Dar! A well-deserved honor. I humbly accept another runner-up finish for II MVP. It was a great season and I wouldn't trade the memories for anything. As I prepare to climb the mountain again, I'm reminded that the purpose of an infinite game is to keep the game going. That goal is, has been and will be attained. Here's to another great II season!

A gracious note from arguably the best reader who hasn't yet won Inbox MVP.

Tim from St Louis, MO

Outsider Inbox MVP? I humbly accept the honor. It was a lot of fun not only answering but also reading everyone's stories and answers, especially the many from their days serving our military. Thank you to everyone who has served and all the stories. Memories do indeed make us rich!

You kicked Outbox-In-Butt, Tim. I meant what I said – we could have used each of your responses, but I wanted to be fair to all the readers and spread the wealth the best I could.

Steve from Redlands, CA

OK Wes, you promised—and OIers don't forget! I've been "on holiday" and was tempted to submit as Steve from Prague, CZ or Salzburg, Austria, but I waited until OI was complete and I returned home to see if you would submit all YOUR answers to the OI questions. Congratulations on another great Outsider Inbox season, but Wes, we await your answers!

Man, the North sure remembers, doesn't it? OK, here we go.

1. Who is on your NFL Mt. Rushmore?

George Halas, Vince Lombardi, Al Davis and Pete Rozelle.

2. What's your personal routine for reading Insider Inbox?

I like to write Inbox with a fresh cup of coffee and a snack break in the middle. Sometimes I'll listen to music in the background if it's not too distracting. In fact, I did today.

3. How did you become a Packers fan?

I always hate to disappoint people with this answer, but the truth is I never was a huge Packers fan. I enjoyed the Super Bowl XXXI run like most kids in Green Bay, but basketball was my sport. I lived and died with the Chicago Bulls in the 1990s. By 2000, my interests turned more to the Milwaukee Brewers. I started working for the Press-Gazette in 2006 and within five years my fandom was quashed. I've always been a massive LeRoy Butler fan, though (if you couldn't already tell). I credit my father for introducing me to a wide array of sports and letting me figure it out from there.

4. What is your slogan for an Insider Inbox T-shirt?

"According to my research (which could be wrong)."

5. What's the most memorable interaction you've had with a Packers player?

My answer to this question will always be Randall Cobb saying hello and welcoming me to the Packers during a team-bonding bowling event I was covering in 2016. I thanked Randall for that after the season. It was a very kind and simple gesture on his part, but it meant a lot to me because of how nervous I was joining the team website after covering the Packers for the Press-Gazette for almost five years. That interaction was one of four or five that made me feel confident I made the right decision. Randall is all class.

6. How did you discover Ask Vic/Insider Inbox?

The week I started working for the Packers. Honest to God, I had no idea Vic wrote the column on a daily basis. If I'd known that, I would've asked for more money.

7. Name three Packers players/coaches/personnel executives, present or past, with whom you'd like to have dinner.

Jack Vainisi, Lee Remmel and Curly Lambeau. I have so, so many questions for all three of them.

8. What is your all-time favorite nickname for a Packers player?

"The Gunslinger."

9. Choose a position and name the top three Packers all-time.

Cornerbacks Herb Adderley, Charles Woodson and Bobby Dillon – and appreciating Jaire Alexander could someday be in that top three.

10. What is your favorite NFL/Packers book?

I believe Cliff's book, "The Greatest Story in Sports" will go down as the greatest piece of historical literature ever produced on the Green Bay Packers. It is truly his magnum opus.

11. What's the most unusual setting in which you've watched a Packers game?

Re-watching the Packers-Panthers game in 2017 from Theda-Clark after the birth of our son (…and then writing Monday's Inbox).

12. Who is your pick for the 2021-22 Insider Inbox MVP?

Each and every one of you. You all make this column special. The overwhelming participation last week proves that. I am thrilled to see Dar be honored, though. He really does deserve it. Have a great Monday, everyone.

Advertising